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Connecting to GP Web Services From Informatica or SoapUI

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We are trying to use Informatica (BizTalk like product) to connect to the GP Native Web Services using NTLM.  So far all we get are timeouts.  We tried using SoapUI to troubleshoot but it also timeouts.  Does anyone know if the GP supports any use of the Web Services other than a .net application?  The few (2) posts I did find both didn't give me much hope that it was support for use on anything other than .net.


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